Comments on: The Way of the Monkey http://www.vertegram.com/self-development/the-way-of-the-monkey/ For self development addicts. Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:09:57 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Attila Borcsa http://www.vertegram.com/self-development/the-way-of-the-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Attila Borcsa Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:37:01 +0000 http://www.vertegram.com/personal-development/the-way-of-the-monkey/#comment-335 Marcus, I will start from your last question. Agree on that, imitation doesn't require comprehension. It wasn't my intention to create an impression of looking down on imitation or any judging. It was more like ascertaining how this learning process goes. Personal development and self development are not the same as far as I see it. The former is concerned with personality, character. Our side developing under influences and reactions. And should be differentiated from the more essential sides. Spiritual development is concerned more with the latter. Self development - as I see it - is a set comprising both personal and spiritual development. It is very difficult to create clearly differentiated categories or levels here. But I like to experiment with possible ones so it facilitates their understanding and communication. Defining the Soul is not easy (... and this definitely sounds like a trivia). Is it a part of the brain, or a capacity or a structure? These are to be debated. Right now I consider it a potentiality available for all. And it will stay like that unless actualized. It seems like the possible peak of human existence and maybe a doorway to other possible existences. Also, I don't see how it could be avoided, sort of a one-way road. I've been touching the subject from many angles so far here on Vertegram and still it is a major task to approach it here. On the other hand, a possible more concrete answer that I could give right now is that the Soul can be "caught in the act" in glimpses of higher awareness. This of course also from the perspective of personal development. Marcus,
I will start from your last question. Agree on that, imitation doesn’t require comprehension. It wasn’t my intention to create an impression of looking down on imitation or any judging. It was more like ascertaining how this learning process goes.

Personal development and self development are not the same as far as I see it. The former is concerned with personality, character. Our side developing under influences and reactions. And should be differentiated from the more essential sides. Spiritual development is concerned more with the latter. Self development – as I see it – is a set comprising both personal and spiritual development.

It is very difficult to create clearly differentiated categories or levels here. But I like to experiment with possible ones so it facilitates their understanding and communication.

Defining the Soul is not easy (… and this definitely sounds like a trivia). Is it a part of the brain, or a capacity or a structure? These are to be debated. Right now I consider it a potentiality available for all. And it will stay like that unless actualized. It seems like the possible peak of human existence and maybe a doorway to other possible existences. Also, I don’t see how it could be avoided, sort of a one-way road. I’ve been touching the subject from many angles so far here on Vertegram and still it is a major task to approach it here.

On the other hand, a possible more concrete answer that I could give right now is that the Soul can be “caught in the act” in glimpses of higher awareness. This of course also from the perspective of personal development.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.vertegram.com/self-development/the-way-of-the-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-333 Marcus Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:41:53 +0000 http://www.vertegram.com/personal-development/the-way-of-the-monkey/#comment-333 Hi, I would be interested to hear your definition of Soul, as I am not sure how you mean it in this example. In addition - I wonder at the concept of imitation. After all to imitate something is to "copy" it. Copying something means that it is merely a replica, and quite often replicas lack what made the original so special. After all - if even a Monkey can imitate, then as far as I can see...it doesn't speak very highly of imitation. It's quite possible to imitate without having any comprehension of that thing, isn't it? Hi, I would be interested to hear your definition of Soul, as I am not sure how you mean it in this example.

In addition – I wonder at the concept of imitation. After all to imitate something is to “copy” it. Copying something means that it is merely a replica, and quite often replicas lack what made the original so special.

After all – if even a Monkey can imitate, then as far as I can see…it doesn’t speak very highly of imitation. It’s quite possible to imitate without having any comprehension of that thing, isn’t it?

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